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- From: "CUTHRY::PFH" <pfh%cuthry.decnet@cucond.phys.columbia.edu>
- Subject: Kermit v2.29.1
- To: "info-dec-micro" <info-dec-micro@score.stanford.edu>
- Reply-To: "CUTHRY::PFH" <pfh%cuthry.decnet@cucond.phys.columbia.edu>
-
- I have a question about Kermit v2.29.1, the old version that does
- vt220 emulation on a Rainbow.
-
- I have been running it on a 100A and it doesn't seem to do the emulation
- completely -- The insert character function doesn't seem to work. Most
- applications don't use this function, so its not very noticeable, however
- my termcap for VI does and KERMIT seems to ignore the insert character.
-
- The termcap runs perfectly with a real vt220 and running KERMIT in debug
- mode shows it parsing the escape sequence.
-
- Has anyone else had this problem? Do I have a bad copy? Is it because
- I have a 100A?
-
- Thanks.
- Paul Hsieh
- pfh@cuthry (BITNET)
- pfh%cuthry.decnet@cucond.columbia.edu (ARPA)
- 39 Pupin Lab Columbia Univ NYC 10027 (US Mail)
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- From: <TLUTZ%WSUMATH.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
- Subject: V2.29.1 of KERMIT
- To: info-dec-micro@score.stanford.edu
- X-Original-To: info-dec-micro@score.stanford.edu,naucse!jdc@arizona.edu,
- pfh@cuthry, TLUTZ
-
- In article <8802032118.AA24217@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>,
- pfh%cuthry.DECnet@CUCOND.PHYS.COLUMBIA.EDU ("CUTHRY::PFH") writes:
- > I have a question about Kermit v2.29.1, the old version that does
- > vt220 emulation on a Rainbow.
-
- >I have been running it on a 100A and it doesn't seem to do the emulation
- >completely -- The insert character function doesn't seem to work. Most
- >applications don't use this function, so its not very noticeable, however
- >my termcap for VI does and KERMIT seems to ignore the insert character.
-
- >The termcap runs perfectly with a real vt220 and running KERMIT in debug
- >mode shows it parsing the escape sequence.
-
- >Has anyone else had this problem? Do I have a bad copy? Is it because
- >I have a 100A?
-
- In article <8802032118.AA24217@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>
- naucse!jdc@arizona.edu (John Campbell) Asks:
- >Is there really a way to get a Rainbow to
- >respond like a vt220?
- >BTW--could pfh be having trouble with unix? I mean, VMS supports an 8 bit
- >world and real 220's have both 8 bit and 7 bit support. Unix normally
- >provides a 7 bit world...
-
- I can speak to some of these questions but not all.
-
- I am writing this using V2.29.1 to connect my 100A to a VAX 11/750 running
- VMS. The editor is EDT, which I am using as I type all of this. All of the
- function keys seem to work within EDT just as they do on the VT240 in my
- office. In particular, FIND, INSERT HERE, REMOVE, SELECT, PREV SCREEN, NEXT
- SCREEN all work, and the top row F6 to F14 keys have the definitions I give
- them in my EDTINI.EDT file. The HELP key even gives me help!
-
- However, this was not always the case. I discovered by fooling around with
- things I still don't completely understand that the DEFAULT key definitions
- which come with V2.29.1 did not do these things. Everything began to work when
- I built my own .INI file. V2.29.1, like V2.30, looks for a file named
- MSKERMIT.INI. Without such a file KERMIT will run, but does what I consider
- to be odd things. For example, with no .INI file, the PREV SCREEN key gives
- you the previous screen, just EXACTLY like it says. For instance, if you
- type a file and then enter the editor, immediately pressing the PREV SCREEN
- key will give you the last page of the file you typed before entering the
- editor. In EDT, PREV SCREEN means 'back up n lines' (n is defined in the
- EDTINI.EDT file or takes a default value). V2.30 also gives you the prior
- screen, it does not back up. This is nice if you want to see what you were
- doing, but confusing if the software normally uses that key for something
- else.
-
- My MSKERMIT.INI file seems to take care of this. Here it is:
- ****************************************************************
- ;Commands to initialize KERMIT
- ;Put in VT 200 mode
- set terminal vt220
- ;
- ;Kill lousy key definitions (so that Next Screen and Prev Screen
- ; will work properly with EDT on the VAX
- set terminal special-functions disabled
- ;get into connect mode
- connect
- ;it works this far; can't auto-dial as far as I can tell
- ****************************************************************
-
- Note that V2.30 WILL auto-dial. Note also that V2.29.1 is not in the
- main-stream of KERMIT. You pays your money and you takes your choice. Except
- that in this case, both versions are free! Hail Columbia!
-
- I have no doubt that there are many other things a VT220 will do which I have
- never tried, and which KERMIT V2.29.1 may or may not emulate.
-
- Tom Lutz
- Program in Astronomy
- Washington State University
- Pullman, Wa 99164-2930
- TLUTZ@WSUMATH
-